egypt, very quickly, just one of the two of you. >> in the case of egypt we have it tremendous a close enduring relationship. that's political and financial relationship. there are levers. the debate is how to exercise those levers, and my own sense is, and it's my personal opinion here, that the more the exercise on the basis of quiet diplomacy's, a dialogue with its security sectors themselves, the more we can push this process forward. at the same time having a public discussion with egyptian leaders about the need for democracy pushes the process for. there's two kinds of discussions that have to be pursued at the same time. let me allude to something hesham said to there are in egypt important civil society groups that have a stake and a part of the dialogue. when he to maintain our relationship with them. the important thing that you pointed out, part of these include element o of the reformt wing the security apparatus. we need to focus on how to sort of engage those potential reforms, how to identify them. so i think those are some of the challenges. >> i think that the united